So it will have 3G "HSDPA" or the 3G just means third generation?
Apple will get into trouble if there was no HSDPA that's misleading !

Either way I'm getting one, i just sold my old ipod touch 2 days ago because i know newer one is coming.

@DR House- I imagine Apple wouldn't get in trouble for what a case manufacturer decided to put on their package.

Funny....
2G iPod Touch 8Gb, 16Gb......... 3G iPod Touch ... (silence). They know what they gonna look like but not the storage it's going to offer? yeah right

@DR House
Your right, it is misleading, but a little common sense is all it takes to figure out it means 3rd gen.
I doubt 100% that Apple will put 3G in the Ipod Touch, it's just a waste of resources, and of course doing so will blur the line even further and interfere with Iphone sales. I mean, who needs an Iphone when you could just load up Skype on an Ipod Touch "3G." That doesn't really seem too smart on Apple's side of things. Personally, I'd rather Apple not add anything else hardware-wise to the Touch other than the camera and the expected hardware updates. Cause I'm thinking my future 64GB Touch would burn a hole in my pocket if they stuffed a 3G chip in there as well. If anyone really wants 3G data on a device like the Touch that badly, just get an Iphone already, cause either way you'll be locked into a contract with AT&T.

Apple never mentions product generation in its marketing. It's only us who do.

@ AndrewNoNumbers

This is obviously not part of Apple's marketing, it's Hama's, hence the "Ipod Touch 3rd Generation" on the packaging.

@AndrewNoNumbers

Maybe not marketing. But they do elsewhere (sometimes). Visit this site or call Apple and give them your iPod's serial number and ask them what it's called on their iLog screen.

http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/

Sorry, unless Apple reinvents the MP3 player all over again, I am done buying ipods for now. All of my old ipods sold for a good price, but I am getting tired of buying new accessories each time.

@ DR House: how much i sold mine for 291 and i'm suffering withdrawals i can't wait for 9/9/09 i wish apple would of just announce this week and release them next week, i can 64gb ipod touch for 399

My first comment @DR House.

HAMA-time!

Help, I'm alive. And my heart keeps beeeeeeatin' like a Hama...Beating like a HAMA!

kickstand, i got a saddle made of leather

Lol... don't kid yourself. I think sales figures will disagree with you.

@rex2745

and why is that ?

@xValentine

well isn't it obvious to little is because they're just adding a camera and its to late for that so to little to late all i could see them doing is a software upgrade but you know they're going to charge for that

You say that, but this year only, (and you know this is true), has a touch-screen based PMP achieved anything close to the 1G iPod touch in terms of build quality and ease of use. And face it guys, tegra and OLED screens are not going to do it for most people outside this lonely little gadget site. Apple will remain dominant because they KNOW what people want. And that's what they make.

got your question now?

:D

Same..

I'm just laughing at the pics. C'mon A CAMERA?

And Microsoft is kicking itself. Seriously, think of the audience. Is a teenager going to want a camera or an OLED screen? I am not arguing against the ZuneHD, just Microsoft's inability to connect to the audience (which Apple seems to do each year). The ZuneHD is great on specs but it is not going to appeal to the mass market in the same way as iPods do. That may be fine for those who appreciate technology (who wants to be a sheep?), but it doesn't do a lot for the bottom line.

And, adding to what Jim said, MS have not released the Zune anywhere outside of the US, and they seem to have done an awful job at marketing it from the start.

@Jim: I'm not so sure. Granted, a camera is a more palpable feature to most than an OLED screen, but the pricing for Zune means you can get 16GB at a 8GB iPod price and 32GB at a 16GB iPod price. As long as the iPod Touch prices don't change, I foresee a shift towards Zune HD.

However, we don't know that the only feature being added to the Touch and Nano is a camera. Maybe that hole in the back is for HD video output. Probably not, but we won't know until Sept 9th.

I'm sure anyone who's read Engadget in the past couple months could have told you this was coming...

i dont want to have to wait months to get an ipod.

do you really think my sister reads engadget?? xD

why cant they just make them the best they can be, and then update every 2/3 years like the xbox and PS3.
not every year :(
my ipod touch cost me almost £300

gutted

If you've been following Apple for the last couple of years, then you should know that the most popular products are updated on a yearly basis. So with any purchase of those products, you have to assume that a newer one is coming out within a year. To think anything less is well, foolish

should of waited, your fault

Apple updates their iPod lineup like clockwork every September. You or your sister have no reason to complain.

So basically you're saying that Apple shouldn't improve their products? You don't want better products? Go back to the store and ask for a refund or just stfu already.

It's just like almost all electronics and gadgets.. you could spend your entire life waiting for something a little better.. just get the best of whatever you budget can afford when you want to buy it and don't look back until you're ready to upgrade..